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Well?????? Perhaps 1 to 1 in urban combat . . . Hypothetically . . .
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I think the Tiger crew would be better off leaving their tank and setting it up as some kind of booby trap , once the Abrams moves in hit the sucker with as many Panzerfaust as possible up its arse and take out the engine , and then run!
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fairly easy for the "Spams" me thinks.
What about theoretically a Maus or E-100 against the Abrams?
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Possible if the Abrams crew were asleep and detection systems were off 
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Well the Iraqi millita managed to take out a few without tanks so with a tiger firing diet pills at the larger than life yanks I think the Tiger might have a slight chance
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Yeh they got a few with IED and RPG's but none have ever been lost in tank v tank combat and most of the pics you will see of blown up Abrams in Iraq are after they have been fully disabled by their crews or US forces after they have become un saveable in the field. While no expert on the Tiger I have read up on the battle system specs for the Abrams and basically its Detect - Target - Kill rinse and repeat and while on the move , even with a manual loader it can still get 3 rounds out per 10 seconds and not miss , if another tank is targetting the same tank the battle system will suggest the next available target to the gunner The Republican Guard in Iraq had T-72's and they were obliterated , they simply did not see the Yanks coming and had no time to respond , an entire tank division was wiped out in something like 21 minutes - awesome tank glad we have them Waste of a good Tiger lol
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None of you know anything!
The Tiger would win this hands down. The Americans, after bad ting themselves at the armement and the sheer power of a Tiger would beg for Mercy as I turned the Mighty 88 on them and blew them to hell!
Nothing can stand against the Tiger it is all powerful mighty Killing machine, nothing can face me in combat and live I kill! I exfucgmphse; vm
I would like to apologise for the above speech. Tiger AusfE has been removed and medicated.
Move along now
Nothing to see here.
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AusTanker wrote:Yeh they got a few with IED and RPG's but none have ever been lost in tank v tank combat and most of the pics you will see of blown up Abrams in Iraq are after they have been fully disabled by their crews or US forces after they have become un saveable in the field.
While no expert on the Tiger I have read up on the battle system specs for the Abrams and basically its Detect - Target - Kill rinse and repeat and while on the move , even with a manual loader it can still get 3 rounds out per 10 seconds and not miss , if another tank is targetting the same tank the battle system will suggest the next available target to the gunner
The Republican Guard in Iraq had T-72's and they were obliterated , they simply did not see the Yanks coming and had no time to respond , an entire tank division was wiped out in something like 21 minutes - awesome tank glad we have them
Waste of a good Tiger lol Yeah thats was Medina Ridge Feb 1991 but there was over 120 M1A1's involved from 2 brigades of US 1st armoured Div. One team 'bandit' of 14 tanks took out 59 T72's, 29 BMP1's, 6 SA-13's and 4 other armoured vehicles to no loss! Turkey shoot 
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OK, time to get serious on this. I think that the M1 would win, it's targetting sytem, penetration ability and fir on the move ability would put the Tiger in very much danger. Coupled to this the thermal heat sensor, so even camoflauge would not help the Tiger much. The armour on the M1 would garuntee a degree of safety on a the M1.
I did actually play this hypothetical combat on the Playstation, you have a battlefield and can select tanks from one nation against another, once I cruelly had 3 King Tigers up against 50 Stuarts.
I should have been reported to the Child protection agency for that one.
But Tiger V M1 was not good. They were firing and moving at such speed it was unreal. I was brewed up from 3000 yards, shot through the front glacis. Panzer Front is meant to be the most realistic Tank sim out there!
In regards to the T72 V M1 in the Gulf.
It is not true to say that the Iraqis could not see them, it was only true at night to say this.
During the day the T72 could see the M1 but it was beyond the optics to give anything but a horrid blur, whereas the M1 crews could see quite clearly what they were shooting that. Add to this the dust Tanks were kicking up, the bad weather etc....The Iraqis were onto a loser on this one.
However, Brave troops, they stayed to battle it out.
The americnas discovered that they could fire shells clean through the Sand Banks the Iraqis had built up in front of their tanks, so the Shell was firing through the sand wall through the tank armour and blowing crap out of the hapless T72.
Even more bad news for the Iraqis was that they could see the M1, They Targeted on them and Fired, only to find shells dropping horribly short, the Optics could see further than the gun could fire. Once an Iraqi tank had fired, the sand bank in front would give up a cloud of sand and the Americans knew straight away where they were! A shot from the T72, would not hit, and worse still, give away their position, often to the morbid end of the crew.
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So even in a dense urban environment the Tiger would not stand a chance?
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Probably a slight percentage of a chance more than in the desert like .0000001% lol
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On terms with the Abrams' superior armament and superior armour, the Tiger would not stand a chance.
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So even in a dense urban environment the Tiger would not stand a chance?
It would have to get damned close to be able to get a penetrating hit, and with the modern armour in use nowadays it is very doubtful mate.
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